In Romania, 5 months after the annulment of the elections, the authorities are struggling to provide evidence for an invented and criminalized act in November 2024. They continue to behave embarrassingly and show their deep contempt for all voters – not only Călin Georgescu’s voters had their votes annulled. But Georgescu was given the maximum punishment, being banned, through an abusive interpretation of the law, from running in the upcoming elections, those in May.
As for the small number of pro-Marine Le Pen demonstrators, I think there is enough resignation among the French. There were hundreds of thousands, maybe millions during the protests against the increase in the retirement age... and what was the result? Macron, the System laughed at them.
Yes I kind of wanted to say the situation in Romania has only gotten worse since I last wrote about it.
As far as the French, it's possible, I don't know what to make of the lack on either side, but indeed some very large protests have been getting them nowhere recently.
It seems the French elites are more sophisticated in using the legal system against politicians. Courts operate within the politics of a country and are not just fact based. The Left has very little to offer working and middle class people so they sabotage their competition. it was fun reading about the details of marine le Pen's saga.
they do also really had Melenchon, when they managed to barely block RN in the last election they basically stripped the rest of the New Popular Front coalition he lead away from his France Unbowed party, being unwilling to form a governing coalition he was involved in. He is what they call the non-Republican left, which is kind of nonsense, though I saw it said he holds the position of abolishing the 5th Republic and moving to the 6th Republic which is more Parliamentary, France's Gaullist 5th Republic is totally unique in W Europe. The 5th Republic is also tied with the 3rd Republic for the longest any of them have lasted, amusingly the 3rd Republic was basically a provisional government for 70 years, in that they never moved past the form of government they set up to form a permanent government. It was totally controlled by I believe 6 families of bankers who were the main shareholders of the central bank, almost all of them Swiss families who moved there to lend the ancien regime money in the last 18th century, the only family that managed to be added was literally the Rothschilds.
That is kind of an aside but an amusing one. The more or less formal system was that they had the ability to stop lending the government money at any time and thus collapse it until there was a government they found acceptable and would sign off on loans for.
Makes me think of the German situation where they won't play ball with the AfD. France is tricky to understand unless you know how the system works in reality, not just according to the written constitution.
yeah France invented the Cordon Sanitaire, hence it being a French term, though it is largely over in France as its impossible to not work with RN in the current environment. In fact the current Prime Minister came in with their support, unless I'm forgetting the order of how governments were formed, but I don't think I am.
France is kind of strange, the President unilaterally appoints the PM but Parliament can remove them at any time so basically the President needs to ensure they can pass a confidence vote before appointing them.
And yeah Gunther explains this in Inside Europe, which was right near the end of the Third Republic. The 6 bank positions were passed down father to son so it was a very real close oligarchy that held all the power, and barely even behind the scenes as their names were all known etc.
In his defense, however, France is a civil code country, not a common law country, and the right to a neutral judge and trial by a jury of your peers does not exist,
I don’t really understand the distinction between civil code and common law and am curious how you would define the difference between the two
They're entirely different legal systems. Civil code is the one Napoleon totally remade, it's sometimes called Napoleonic Code. A big thing about it is that prosecutors are the lead investigators in criminal cases and you are tried before a body of judges instead of a jury and the judges more or less are openly on the prosecutors side.
It's much more than that though. It makes substantially less use of the concept of precedent, among other differences.
In Romania, 5 months after the annulment of the elections, the authorities are struggling to provide evidence for an invented and criminalized act in November 2024. They continue to behave embarrassingly and show their deep contempt for all voters – not only Călin Georgescu’s voters had their votes annulled. But Georgescu was given the maximum punishment, being banned, through an abusive interpretation of the law, from running in the upcoming elections, those in May.
As for the small number of pro-Marine Le Pen demonstrators, I think there is enough resignation among the French. There were hundreds of thousands, maybe millions during the protests against the increase in the retirement age... and what was the result? Macron, the System laughed at them.
Yes I kind of wanted to say the situation in Romania has only gotten worse since I last wrote about it.
As far as the French, it's possible, I don't know what to make of the lack on either side, but indeed some very large protests have been getting them nowhere recently.
It seems the French elites are more sophisticated in using the legal system against politicians. Courts operate within the politics of a country and are not just fact based. The Left has very little to offer working and middle class people so they sabotage their competition. it was fun reading about the details of marine le Pen's saga.
they do also really had Melenchon, when they managed to barely block RN in the last election they basically stripped the rest of the New Popular Front coalition he lead away from his France Unbowed party, being unwilling to form a governing coalition he was involved in. He is what they call the non-Republican left, which is kind of nonsense, though I saw it said he holds the position of abolishing the 5th Republic and moving to the 6th Republic which is more Parliamentary, France's Gaullist 5th Republic is totally unique in W Europe. The 5th Republic is also tied with the 3rd Republic for the longest any of them have lasted, amusingly the 3rd Republic was basically a provisional government for 70 years, in that they never moved past the form of government they set up to form a permanent government. It was totally controlled by I believe 6 families of bankers who were the main shareholders of the central bank, almost all of them Swiss families who moved there to lend the ancien regime money in the last 18th century, the only family that managed to be added was literally the Rothschilds.
That is kind of an aside but an amusing one. The more or less formal system was that they had the ability to stop lending the government money at any time and thus collapse it until there was a government they found acceptable and would sign off on loans for.
Makes me think of the German situation where they won't play ball with the AfD. France is tricky to understand unless you know how the system works in reality, not just according to the written constitution.
yeah France invented the Cordon Sanitaire, hence it being a French term, though it is largely over in France as its impossible to not work with RN in the current environment. In fact the current Prime Minister came in with their support, unless I'm forgetting the order of how governments were formed, but I don't think I am.
France is kind of strange, the President unilaterally appoints the PM but Parliament can remove them at any time so basically the President needs to ensure they can pass a confidence vote before appointing them.
And yeah Gunther explains this in Inside Europe, which was right near the end of the Third Republic. The 6 bank positions were passed down father to son so it was a very real close oligarchy that held all the power, and barely even behind the scenes as their names were all known etc.
In his defense, however, France is a civil code country, not a common law country, and the right to a neutral judge and trial by a jury of your peers does not exist,
I don’t really understand the distinction between civil code and common law and am curious how you would define the difference between the two
They're entirely different legal systems. Civil code is the one Napoleon totally remade, it's sometimes called Napoleonic Code. A big thing about it is that prosecutors are the lead investigators in criminal cases and you are tried before a body of judges instead of a jury and the judges more or less are openly on the prosecutors side.
It's much more than that though. It makes substantially less use of the concept of precedent, among other differences.