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I edited out some of the more offensive language after a couple of comments about it, figuring that it isn't sensible to write something this long and well thought out and then have people not want to share it because I used some words that scare the hoes.
Then the subject turns to Canada and, though not absolutely wrong, I had to cringe repeatedly.
- the idea that Canada is peopled with 130+ IQ Anglos. Sorry, this is not a country of 130 IQ people. Not Anglos, not anyone.
- Canada’s often mocked national habit of apologizing for everything.
There is this weird popular internet trope that Canadians spend their time in mild-mannered apologies. Canadian history is full of riots against the French, the English, the Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Chinese, Israel, strikes, conscription, winning the Stanley Cup, losing the Stanly cup, G20, cancelled rock concerts, ICE...
- most battles between Quebec and Ottawa strengthened the provinces
Like federations I know of, like US or Germany, the canadian federal government has grown to become the dominant and legitimate government over the federated states, provinces, kingdoms in which people had their historical identities. Granted, Quebec nationalism has slowed down the process, occasionally launching a countre-strike, but since the Trudeaus, Ottawa has been slowily crushing the provinces, bringing them to heel, and Carney looks the most centralizing of all.
- Chrystia Freeland, being an unreconstructed Nazi.
I dislike Freeland and the LPC bunch, but this is going way overboard. She had a grandfather who was a Nazi-allied Ukrainian nationalist.
- sparsely populated semi-Arctic wasteland
Hmm. This is going by land mass not by population. If you pick a random square mile in Canada, yes, chances are it is a semi-Arctic wasteland. But if you pick a random Canadian, chances are he's living in a large city, in the densely populated St-Lawrence valley, Ontario peninsula or Southwest BC, not semi-arctic wasteland.
But I guess the rest is flawless! Let's hear it for Gell-Mann Amnesia!
- The 130 IQ Anglos thing is kind of a race science joke/meme but regardless the English system worked well at the time when people chose to actually put smart people in charge of the government
- Canadians do apologize all the time, at least the Anglo ones, I have known very few French Canadians. It is true that being French, the French Canadians riot. I didn't really think about Vancouver having the same anti-Chinese panic as Seattle and San Francisco, though it stands to reason they would have, so that is a good point.
- The upshot of Quebec's battles with the federal government have historically been that every province ends up with the same rights as Quebec, though the government has greatly centralized in the time that Canada has become a Total Mess.
- Freeland also worked on the newsletter celebrating Nazi heritage in Canada, along with the rest of Parliament clapped for an SS member, and remains a maniacal Ukraine partisan
- Yes, I believe the stat is that 2/3rds of Canadians live within 150 miles of the St Lawrence River. The average population density of the country is very low though and plenty of its economy comes from the natural resources in the parts of the country no one lives in. That is a funny thing about mass immigration though, is that Canada and Australia are the only countries that accepted mass immigration that could be plausibly said to be underpopulated, but the migrants are not busting out new farms in Alberta or ranching in the outback, they're moving into populous cities with a really high cost of living, which is what I was getting at with saying the last time this much of Canada was foreign born the people were more or less pioneers
- Regarding Chrystia Freeland, I think you are confusing her with her grandfather Michael Chomiak, who was indeed an editor for a nazi-adjacent newspaper, but that was in Krakow in 1940. There is no doubt that Chrystia is a pro-Ukraine hawk. And that moment in the House of Commons was embarrassing but I'm sure that seal-clapping was entirely due to them thinking they were applauding for Ukraine or whatever
- I believe the figure is > 80% living within 100 miles of the US border, leading to the witticism that inhabited Canada is a horizontal Chile. And I completely agree with the exasperation with immigrants who claim they built Canada when most of them and certainly all recent immigrants just landed in a large existing city and possibly got a job. Indeed if they settled in the Slave River valley or upper Mauricie, starting from a hamlet and growing it over generations to a major city, then sure they could say they built the country.
- Regarding rioting, I am almost flattered that you consider us French-Canadians as red-blooded, but you can look up the 1840 burning of the Montreal Parliament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_the_Parliament_Buildings_in_Montreal), which was an English anti-French riot: "Anglo-Saxons! you must live for the future. Your blood and race will now be supreme, if true to yourselves. A Mass Meeting will be held on the Place d'Armes this evening at 8 o'clock. Anglo-Saxons to the struggle, now is your time."; the Shelburne race riots in Nova Scotia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelburne_riots): "Attacks continued for another month against Black Loyalists"; the Vancouver anti-Chinese riots of 1886 or 1907 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1907_Vancouver_anti-Asian_riots): "angry mobs stormed through Powell Street in Vancouver's Chinatown, breaking windows and assaulting Chinese people in the streets", the Christie Pits riot of 1933 at the Christie Pits in Toronto, the Gavazzi Riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavazzi_Riots with Irish Catholics protesters being fired upon by the army, the 1875 Jubilee riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_riots) with Orange Order Protestants attacking Catholics marching in Toronto; the 1918 conscription riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_Crisis_of_1917#Quebec_Easter_riots_and_the_end_of_the_war); the Winnipeg General Strike of 1919 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_general_strike): "After the Mayor read the Riot Act, the Mounties entered the fray again, this time discharging their .45 revolvers in three separate volleys. "; the 1935 Regina Riots "the police charged the crowd with batons from all four sides. They fought back with sticks, stones, and anything at hand. Mounted RCMP officers then started to use tear gas and fired guns. The battle continued in the surrounding streets for six hours. Police fired revolvers above and into groups of people"; the 1945 Halifax riot "This rapidly evolved into a rampage by several thousand servicemen, merchant seamen, and civilians, who looted the City of Halifax", the 1955 Richard riot with French Canadians rioting over the suspension of a hockey idol; the 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot) "Nearly 150 people were injured during the incident, including four by stabbing"; and maybe agree that there is more to Canadians in general, and non-French Canadian more specifically, than meek apologizing.
Oh sorry, youre right, Freeland wrote for an Encylopedia associated with a Galicia Division member. Also though its more or less fair to call anyone who is in a party that wants to euthanize the disabled a Nazi, if we're being honest.
Anyway, yes exciting things do happen in any country's history, besides Costa Rica and Uruguay it would seem, but nevertheless Canada's history is overall quite calm compared to most countries
Kudos for doing leg work on Basically Fineism. I was not aware of much lore owing to ephemeral design of Twitter. Kunley could easily have his own Moldbuggian sized crown if he wanted to write more. Maybe that Basically Fineism does not require endless essays as a ("so-called") political philosophy is part of its allure.
Based on how we currently interpret and coast off of the 20th century, its institutions, ideology, and its consequences, I suspect Americans are generations away from anything like this. America might not ever achieve such great heights as Basically Fine+ governance. We are not like Denmark, we can not decide to Wake Up, flip a switch, and do sensible policy. My prediction is post-ideological governance would be something America learns from the world. We are unfortunately afforded, for the time being, policy detached from outcomes. I do think "migroid" detracts from an otherwise mature essay and explanation. But to each their own, etc.
migroid is explained in the glossary and also this mature essay explains a political concept titled "Scaring the hoes"
Anyway, thank you, America is for many reasons one of the countries the least prone to Basically Fineism, due to it's size, history, ambition, and the very nature of its people. Nevertheless, we could learn much from it.
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This is magnificent and something that one can share to explain all the deep basically fineism lore to normies.
I edited out some of the more offensive language after a couple of comments about it, figuring that it isn't sensible to write something this long and well thought out and then have people not want to share it because I used some words that scare the hoes.
I read this and think: great post!
Then the subject turns to Canada and, though not absolutely wrong, I had to cringe repeatedly.
- the idea that Canada is peopled with 130+ IQ Anglos. Sorry, this is not a country of 130 IQ people. Not Anglos, not anyone.
- Canada’s often mocked national habit of apologizing for everything.
There is this weird popular internet trope that Canadians spend their time in mild-mannered apologies. Canadian history is full of riots against the French, the English, the Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Chinese, Israel, strikes, conscription, winning the Stanley Cup, losing the Stanly cup, G20, cancelled rock concerts, ICE...
- most battles between Quebec and Ottawa strengthened the provinces
Like federations I know of, like US or Germany, the canadian federal government has grown to become the dominant and legitimate government over the federated states, provinces, kingdoms in which people had their historical identities. Granted, Quebec nationalism has slowed down the process, occasionally launching a countre-strike, but since the Trudeaus, Ottawa has been slowily crushing the provinces, bringing them to heel, and Carney looks the most centralizing of all.
- Chrystia Freeland, being an unreconstructed Nazi.
I dislike Freeland and the LPC bunch, but this is going way overboard. She had a grandfather who was a Nazi-allied Ukrainian nationalist.
- sparsely populated semi-Arctic wasteland
Hmm. This is going by land mass not by population. If you pick a random square mile in Canada, yes, chances are it is a semi-Arctic wasteland. But if you pick a random Canadian, chances are he's living in a large city, in the densely populated St-Lawrence valley, Ontario peninsula or Southwest BC, not semi-arctic wasteland.
But I guess the rest is flawless! Let's hear it for Gell-Mann Amnesia!
Ok, well
- The 130 IQ Anglos thing is kind of a race science joke/meme but regardless the English system worked well at the time when people chose to actually put smart people in charge of the government
- Canadians do apologize all the time, at least the Anglo ones, I have known very few French Canadians. It is true that being French, the French Canadians riot. I didn't really think about Vancouver having the same anti-Chinese panic as Seattle and San Francisco, though it stands to reason they would have, so that is a good point.
- The upshot of Quebec's battles with the federal government have historically been that every province ends up with the same rights as Quebec, though the government has greatly centralized in the time that Canada has become a Total Mess.
- Freeland also worked on the newsletter celebrating Nazi heritage in Canada, along with the rest of Parliament clapped for an SS member, and remains a maniacal Ukraine partisan
- Yes, I believe the stat is that 2/3rds of Canadians live within 150 miles of the St Lawrence River. The average population density of the country is very low though and plenty of its economy comes from the natural resources in the parts of the country no one lives in. That is a funny thing about mass immigration though, is that Canada and Australia are the only countries that accepted mass immigration that could be plausibly said to be underpopulated, but the migrants are not busting out new farms in Alberta or ranching in the outback, they're moving into populous cities with a really high cost of living, which is what I was getting at with saying the last time this much of Canada was foreign born the people were more or less pioneers
- Regarding Chrystia Freeland, I think you are confusing her with her grandfather Michael Chomiak, who was indeed an editor for a nazi-adjacent newspaper, but that was in Krakow in 1940. There is no doubt that Chrystia is a pro-Ukraine hawk. And that moment in the House of Commons was embarrassing but I'm sure that seal-clapping was entirely due to them thinking they were applauding for Ukraine or whatever
- I believe the figure is > 80% living within 100 miles of the US border, leading to the witticism that inhabited Canada is a horizontal Chile. And I completely agree with the exasperation with immigrants who claim they built Canada when most of them and certainly all recent immigrants just landed in a large existing city and possibly got a job. Indeed if they settled in the Slave River valley or upper Mauricie, starting from a hamlet and growing it over generations to a major city, then sure they could say they built the country.
- Regarding rioting, I am almost flattered that you consider us French-Canadians as red-blooded, but you can look up the 1840 burning of the Montreal Parliament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_the_Parliament_Buildings_in_Montreal), which was an English anti-French riot: "Anglo-Saxons! you must live for the future. Your blood and race will now be supreme, if true to yourselves. A Mass Meeting will be held on the Place d'Armes this evening at 8 o'clock. Anglo-Saxons to the struggle, now is your time."; the Shelburne race riots in Nova Scotia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelburne_riots): "Attacks continued for another month against Black Loyalists"; the Vancouver anti-Chinese riots of 1886 or 1907 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1907_Vancouver_anti-Asian_riots): "angry mobs stormed through Powell Street in Vancouver's Chinatown, breaking windows and assaulting Chinese people in the streets", the Christie Pits riot of 1933 at the Christie Pits in Toronto, the Gavazzi Riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavazzi_Riots with Irish Catholics protesters being fired upon by the army, the 1875 Jubilee riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_riots) with Orange Order Protestants attacking Catholics marching in Toronto; the 1918 conscription riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_Crisis_of_1917#Quebec_Easter_riots_and_the_end_of_the_war); the Winnipeg General Strike of 1919 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_general_strike): "After the Mayor read the Riot Act, the Mounties entered the fray again, this time discharging their .45 revolvers in three separate volleys. "; the 1935 Regina Riots "the police charged the crowd with batons from all four sides. They fought back with sticks, stones, and anything at hand. Mounted RCMP officers then started to use tear gas and fired guns. The battle continued in the surrounding streets for six hours. Police fired revolvers above and into groups of people"; the 1945 Halifax riot "This rapidly evolved into a rampage by several thousand servicemen, merchant seamen, and civilians, who looted the City of Halifax", the 1955 Richard riot with French Canadians rioting over the suspension of a hockey idol; the 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot) "Nearly 150 people were injured during the incident, including four by stabbing"; and maybe agree that there is more to Canadians in general, and non-French Canadian more specifically, than meek apologizing.
Oh sorry, youre right, Freeland wrote for an Encylopedia associated with a Galicia Division member. Also though its more or less fair to call anyone who is in a party that wants to euthanize the disabled a Nazi, if we're being honest.
Anyway, yes exciting things do happen in any country's history, besides Costa Rica and Uruguay it would seem, but nevertheless Canada's history is overall quite calm compared to most countries
Also my wife is half Canadian and is from a border town I am fairly familiar with what Canadians are like lol
Kudos for doing leg work on Basically Fineism. I was not aware of much lore owing to ephemeral design of Twitter. Kunley could easily have his own Moldbuggian sized crown if he wanted to write more. Maybe that Basically Fineism does not require endless essays as a ("so-called") political philosophy is part of its allure.
Based on how we currently interpret and coast off of the 20th century, its institutions, ideology, and its consequences, I suspect Americans are generations away from anything like this. America might not ever achieve such great heights as Basically Fine+ governance. We are not like Denmark, we can not decide to Wake Up, flip a switch, and do sensible policy. My prediction is post-ideological governance would be something America learns from the world. We are unfortunately afforded, for the time being, policy detached from outcomes. I do think "migroid" detracts from an otherwise mature essay and explanation. But to each their own, etc.
migroid is explained in the glossary and also this mature essay explains a political concept titled "Scaring the hoes"
Anyway, thank you, America is for many reasons one of the countries the least prone to Basically Fineism, due to it's size, history, ambition, and the very nature of its people. Nevertheless, we could learn much from it.