Thank you. I am still not a very large substack, I have about 1350 subscribers and Twitter has really been suppressing links so this hasn't spread there. Only around 1000 people have viewed this article, and a small percentage of people comment. In short, the debate really has not taken place anywhere, at least about this article.
edit: I just saw after posting this got picked up on naked capitalism, which always gets me a lot of clicks, so actually at like 1750 views. Regardless, not a lot of people comment.
nice, thank you, I really appreciate it. I have had a terrible time getting this shared on Twitter though it has done really well on substack. They say they are suppressing all links but it hasn't done well as a thread with no links either.
...... still 3 out of a thousand to comment seems very low, for a subject about which everyone must have an opinion
Where does this debate take place – in any case from what you say it seems like there is no debate, just stale repetition of self serving platitudes which are at once trivial, extreme, and desperate
– it is a ‘dialogue des sourds’, a french phrase which does not have a direct equivalent in english as far as I know, which means a conversation between those who are deaf
You describe set patterns of thought emphasised largely in the Democratic party following/ in line with developments in male female relationships leading to a pronounced severe divide in society and politics, more or less un precedented
This subject has another aspect that you only very briefly touch on, fertility rates
The decline in these is not limited to the US, and is the result of the much the same social economic and political pressures
Here too debate and comment is very restricted, in the US and EU, there are intitiatives in China brought to light or underlined by the recent Third Plenum
Even so-- the subject is even more important than the gender war, as, according to those few who have commented, the decline is now so rapid that extinction, in developed even developing countries, is only a few generations away
Yet there is very little by way of a solution that does not involve, as with the gender wars, a profound and fundamental upheaval largely excluded from view & discussion by the current predicament
I've been writing about fertility rates a lot recently [I have a baby,] I go into it extensively in my "A New Age of Wandering Tribes" article from August as well as my reflections on parenthood article from June. I have also published two articles on the topic at the Libertarian Institute recently.
regarding the lack of comments, I don't know man, it amazes me how many people never even click like buttons. This article actually has more interactions than average [14% compared to 9%, substack shows me these stats] I always have to say something, a lot of readers never interact, which I find strange but its common. I will have people tell me they read everything I post who have never commented or discussed lol.
You get no likes because you choose topics people are frightened of
They are lost to say anything, so con tradictory are the currents of thought they are offered, which they think to navigate as the expression has it
As if opinion was to be selected from a menu from a very choice very public restaurant where opinon or thought is merely manners
This is the middle class death of US, and EU, thought ideas etc
I read your article from Oct 21 at the Libertarian Institute
I am afraid I did not know about your writings on this subject, please excuse me
I live in Central Africa, even here, even far from the coast, decline is in evidence from the previous generations 8 to 12 or more
What you write is of course true, but is screened from view by propaganda from the 60’s and 70’s onwards which runs in the opposite direction, and has now become so hallowed that it may not be questioned
PP suggests this is a blind inherent to capitalism
The US will not be able to maintain the, necessary to create the conditions for emigration, poverty and chaos in Latin and South America for much longer, which will result in decreased immigration : and the EU is already panicking at Russia control over the the Sahel and Libya, a large part of the the traditional immigrations routes to Europe
Are you aware of the China initiatives – which treat the means of reproduction of the means of production as part of pragmatic set of problems, to set aside a certain percentage of the population for this purpose
This does bear some resemblance to traditional solutions such as perceptible in Central Africa
These have been summed up, or embroidered on, in rather cavalier style, by an US anonymous author Ichabod writing in the Asia Times
« Demographic disaster may have an unappreciated upside’
PS The South Koreans are the perfect exemplar- their gender wars seem to be even more extreme than in the US, prohibited by a long and successful money wise submission to US think, have sealed off the exits – while engaged in a futile attempt to face down the North, who have an ever growing advantage when it comes to men of military age, as well as in other effective capabilities
The South always thought it would takeover the North, it must be shock to realise that the opposite is already happened, or happening in a way they did not or could not imagine
All the foolishness stems from notions/practices of competition which are entry level capitalist mind set, self contradictory, yet irrefutable : that people feel poorer the richer they get is the price they pay for their false consciousness, as in the US where the same excuses are used
Here the very poor are aware that children are a necessity, no matter what
Yeah my prior LI article was about North and South Korea it is incredible that the South will likely to have to give them very good reunification terms because North Korea has population. I also write about the Sahel a lot, the ability to stop migrants along that route has really been limited by world events. They were also previously paying Hemedti and the RSF in Sudan to stop migration but true to form they were probably actually human trafficking themselves while taking money to stop it.
Regarding people not wanting to like or share the content because it is controversial, that is possible, though what people will share compared to read etc can be curious. sometimes everyone wants to read something but don't think other people will want to and other time they want everyone to read what they won't read themselves. For example, I wrote an article about Steve Hanke's metanalysis of lockdown studies, and sometimes that would get as many retweets as it would get clicks, or even more, which is to say more people were sharing it than reading it. This is obviously because a lot of people know lockdowns were a failure and don't feel compelled to themselves read more about it, but want everyone else to read about it.
As far as I know, it is now possible to be slightly critical of the western handling of Covid – given the abject failure of every measure intitiative and the continuing plague of deaths
But – from down here – no one in the villages had any thought for any of the so called ‘dangers’, despite an adequate government imitation of USEU measures, all dismissed as mere pretences and rehearsals for repression of any popular movements against the very unpopular régime
My personal experience was that only a very few middle class people living lives copied on EU paradigms died, plus again a very few middle class AIDs carriers, aged
In USEU have not seen any extensive critique of the causations to be found in industrial agriculture, USEU communal health levels, or discussion of ill managed population density – but perhaps I missed these
I found this article at Naked Capitalism, I believe, in their daily "Links" section. I have well over 100 individual writers book-marked, mostly "Substack-ers" as well as a scad of kind of magazine or newspaper-type websites like, for example, Consortium News. There are a veritable slew of people such as yourself putting up often fascinating stuff. It's near impossible to keep up with everybody. It can be overwhelming. I end up relying on the aforementioned NC "Links", a lot.
I'll try to think to return. This was fascinating and comprehensive.
To add, see, like Philip Pilkington, for example, that Mr White here mentions. I read several pieces by him at NC some years ago. He was good. Then, when he didn't post articles there anymore, I forgot about him. I see his name mentioned occasionally somewhere. I think, "Hey! Gotta go read me some PP." Nope. In the slew of other stuff that pours in, I forget about him again.
I liked your article here a lot. I went to bookmark your site. Already had it bookmarked from some time in the past. See?! I'll try to remember this time to return and check out your work purposefully without stumbling on it next time. I promise?
Thank you! Yes Naked Capitalism shares me work somewhat frequently, they must have a lot of readers because it produces a lot of clicks despite how long their list of daily links always is. Remember that you can always subscribe and get the articles to your email or substack inbox. I am also on Twitter @WaywardRabbler
Good job of illuminating the intense, practically open misandry of the Democratic Party. At one point you talked about how the DP, as it's villified male interests in general, has tried to narrow those interests and favored male activities, such as traditionally running and organizing larger-scale organizations, to white males, thus projecting them onto the accepted, established scapegoat group. Good, thorough in scope, work here.
This is very well written and convincing, even to an outsider not very familiar with pinhead dancing in the US
I would have expected a lively comments section.....but nothing......does this mean the debates take place ..where? on tv only or twtter only?
Thank you. I am still not a very large substack, I have about 1350 subscribers and Twitter has really been suppressing links so this hasn't spread there. Only around 1000 people have viewed this article, and a small percentage of people comment. In short, the debate really has not taken place anywhere, at least about this article.
edit: I just saw after posting this got picked up on naked capitalism, which always gets me a lot of clicks, so actually at like 1750 views. Regardless, not a lot of people comment.
Well, not like it's gonna do much, but I just restacked it and dropped a link on xitter. This is great stuff. Hats off.
nice, thank you, I really appreciate it. I have had a terrible time getting this shared on Twitter though it has done really well on substack. They say they are suppressing all links but it hasn't done well as a thread with no links either.
Dear Mr Pierce
Thank you for the figures
...... still 3 out of a thousand to comment seems very low, for a subject about which everyone must have an opinion
Where does this debate take place – in any case from what you say it seems like there is no debate, just stale repetition of self serving platitudes which are at once trivial, extreme, and desperate
– it is a ‘dialogue des sourds’, a french phrase which does not have a direct equivalent in english as far as I know, which means a conversation between those who are deaf
You describe set patterns of thought emphasised largely in the Democratic party following/ in line with developments in male female relationships leading to a pronounced severe divide in society and politics, more or less un precedented
This subject has another aspect that you only very briefly touch on, fertility rates
The decline in these is not limited to the US, and is the result of the much the same social economic and political pressures
Here too debate and comment is very restricted, in the US and EU, there are intitiatives in China brought to light or underlined by the recent Third Plenum
Even so-- the subject is even more important than the gender war, as, according to those few who have commented, the decline is now so rapid that extinction, in developed even developing countries, is only a few generations away
Yet there is very little by way of a solution that does not involve, as with the gender wars, a profound and fundamental upheaval largely excluded from view & discussion by the current predicament
If you are interested in a subject clearly another aspect of the one you describe, I can refer you to essays by Philip Pilkington, one of which- https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2022/11/capitalisms-overlooked-contradiction-wealth-and-demographic-decline/
If you have any interest I can refer you to other writings
I've been writing about fertility rates a lot recently [I have a baby,] I go into it extensively in my "A New Age of Wandering Tribes" article from August as well as my reflections on parenthood article from June. I have also published two articles on the topic at the Libertarian Institute recently.
http://libertarianinstitute.org/author/brad-pearce/
regarding the lack of comments, I don't know man, it amazes me how many people never even click like buttons. This article actually has more interactions than average [14% compared to 9%, substack shows me these stats] I always have to say something, a lot of readers never interact, which I find strange but its common. I will have people tell me they read everything I post who have never commented or discussed lol.
You get no likes because you choose topics people are frightened of
They are lost to say anything, so con tradictory are the currents of thought they are offered, which they think to navigate as the expression has it
As if opinion was to be selected from a menu from a very choice very public restaurant where opinon or thought is merely manners
This is the middle class death of US, and EU, thought ideas etc
I read your article from Oct 21 at the Libertarian Institute
I am afraid I did not know about your writings on this subject, please excuse me
I live in Central Africa, even here, even far from the coast, decline is in evidence from the previous generations 8 to 12 or more
What you write is of course true, but is screened from view by propaganda from the 60’s and 70’s onwards which runs in the opposite direction, and has now become so hallowed that it may not be questioned
PP suggests this is a blind inherent to capitalism
The US will not be able to maintain the, necessary to create the conditions for emigration, poverty and chaos in Latin and South America for much longer, which will result in decreased immigration : and the EU is already panicking at Russia control over the the Sahel and Libya, a large part of the the traditional immigrations routes to Europe
Are you aware of the China initiatives – which treat the means of reproduction of the means of production as part of pragmatic set of problems, to set aside a certain percentage of the population for this purpose
This does bear some resemblance to traditional solutions such as perceptible in Central Africa
These have been summed up, or embroidered on, in rather cavalier style, by an US anonymous author Ichabod writing in the Asia Times
« Demographic disaster may have an unappreciated upside’
April 14 2024
https://asiatimes.com/2024/04/demographic-disaster-may-have-an-unappreciated-upside/
‘The economic way to reverse demographic decline’
Sept 14 2024
https://asiatimes.com/2024/09/the-economic-way-to-reverse-demographic-decline/
« East better than West for pro-natalist engineering »
Sept 17 2024 Icabod Asia Times
https://asiatimes.com/2024/09/east-better-than-west-for-pro-natalist-engineering/
PS The South Koreans are the perfect exemplar- their gender wars seem to be even more extreme than in the US, prohibited by a long and successful money wise submission to US think, have sealed off the exits – while engaged in a futile attempt to face down the North, who have an ever growing advantage when it comes to men of military age, as well as in other effective capabilities
The South always thought it would takeover the North, it must be shock to realise that the opposite is already happened, or happening in a way they did not or could not imagine
All the foolishness stems from notions/practices of competition which are entry level capitalist mind set, self contradictory, yet irrefutable : that people feel poorer the richer they get is the price they pay for their false consciousness, as in the US where the same excuses are used
Here the very poor are aware that children are a necessity, no matter what
Yeah my prior LI article was about North and South Korea it is incredible that the South will likely to have to give them very good reunification terms because North Korea has population. I also write about the Sahel a lot, the ability to stop migrants along that route has really been limited by world events. They were also previously paying Hemedti and the RSF in Sudan to stop migration but true to form they were probably actually human trafficking themselves while taking money to stop it.
Regarding people not wanting to like or share the content because it is controversial, that is possible, though what people will share compared to read etc can be curious. sometimes everyone wants to read something but don't think other people will want to and other time they want everyone to read what they won't read themselves. For example, I wrote an article about Steve Hanke's metanalysis of lockdown studies, and sometimes that would get as many retweets as it would get clicks, or even more, which is to say more people were sharing it than reading it. This is obviously because a lot of people know lockdowns were a failure and don't feel compelled to themselves read more about it, but want everyone else to read about it.
Well have to agree to agree then !
As far as I know, it is now possible to be slightly critical of the western handling of Covid – given the abject failure of every measure intitiative and the continuing plague of deaths
But – from down here – no one in the villages had any thought for any of the so called ‘dangers’, despite an adequate government imitation of USEU measures, all dismissed as mere pretences and rehearsals for repression of any popular movements against the very unpopular régime
My personal experience was that only a very few middle class people living lives copied on EU paradigms died, plus again a very few middle class AIDs carriers, aged
In USEU have not seen any extensive critique of the causations to be found in industrial agriculture, USEU communal health levels, or discussion of ill managed population density – but perhaps I missed these
I found this article at Naked Capitalism, I believe, in their daily "Links" section. I have well over 100 individual writers book-marked, mostly "Substack-ers" as well as a scad of kind of magazine or newspaper-type websites like, for example, Consortium News. There are a veritable slew of people such as yourself putting up often fascinating stuff. It's near impossible to keep up with everybody. It can be overwhelming. I end up relying on the aforementioned NC "Links", a lot.
I'll try to think to return. This was fascinating and comprehensive.
To add, see, like Philip Pilkington, for example, that Mr White here mentions. I read several pieces by him at NC some years ago. He was good. Then, when he didn't post articles there anymore, I forgot about him. I see his name mentioned occasionally somewhere. I think, "Hey! Gotta go read me some PP." Nope. In the slew of other stuff that pours in, I forget about him again.
I liked your article here a lot. I went to bookmark your site. Already had it bookmarked from some time in the past. See?! I'll try to remember this time to return and check out your work purposefully without stumbling on it next time. I promise?
Thank you! Yes Naked Capitalism shares me work somewhat frequently, they must have a lot of readers because it produces a lot of clicks despite how long their list of daily links always is. Remember that you can always subscribe and get the articles to your email or substack inbox. I am also on Twitter @WaywardRabbler
Very well said.
Just curious, what’s Harris’ likely appeal to those men in opposition to genocide?
well, she's vaguely ethnic if that is worth anything
Good job of illuminating the intense, practically open misandry of the Democratic Party. At one point you talked about how the DP, as it's villified male interests in general, has tried to narrow those interests and favored male activities, such as traditionally running and organizing larger-scale organizations, to white males, thus projecting them onto the accepted, established scapegoat group. Good, thorough in scope, work here.